Forum Users Are Vocal

When I am looking to get the word out for a client, I often look at forums for inspiration, because I think the real conversations (since the pre-1995 AOL explosion), have always been on bulletin boards and forums. Forum users are loud-mouthed and honest and you can get a great idea of these things:

1. What they think about your product/site.
2. Which competitors they are choosing over you.
3. Their favorite sources of info (they quote liberally).

When I am in affiliate mode, I read these forums”

Digital Point, WickedFire, Webmasterworld, Sitepoint

The ones with RSS support get my attention first. The others, only when I have extra time, which is never. Before I wrote this, of course, I had to check and make sure the ISN’s forums had RSS, but, whew, they do, per forum. 😉

RSS was the ‘one-issue’ that I made sure I had when I set up my problogwriters forum (moderator needed, btw). There are only a handful of ways to achieve RSS forums for free, and SMF seemed the smartest, due to it’s beautiful integration with Joomla. Security breaches aside (I was hacked twice), this is still the solution I recommend to people.

But back to the topic at hand, forum users are influencers. I’d bet if you named off the top early bloggers, every one of them were forum users first. These people talk, and their ideas created a following.

As well, don’t overlook the SEO aspect. Do a search on a product, most likely you’ll get a forum (or several) in the top 10 results. These predominantly textual sites, much like blogs, are SEOed well by nature. If your product is great, you WANT it mentioned organically in forums. This creates a testimonial that is organically well placed SEO-wise and since it’s off your site, it is seen as user gen trustworthy. Of course, I stress I would NEVER suggest spamming a forum. This will almost always come back to bite you in the ass. If your product/site is crap, stay out of forums. If it is good, someone from your group needs to be in offsite forums on a regular basis with your link in their signature.

Don’t forget to use forums in your marketing push. Bloggers always talk about community. You won’t ever build a blog community that is as strong as a forum, even though some are close (think problogger.net) or any number of mommy blogs. The next post will focus on bringing the successful parts of a forum to your blog.

Links for 1/31/2007

Lee Odden has a nice synopsis on Shoemoney‘s podcast with Google Adsense’s Brian Axe. I have yet to be disappointed with a Shoemoney show.

Rubel points us to Prof Micheal Keren’s statement that implies that bloggers are lonely people. He doesn’t buy it and I second that. I’ve met more people through this blog than I can count.

The ShareASale blog makes mention of an affiliate marketing voting-type social venture, BUMPzee.

Technorati’s WTF got a WTF? from Problogger and Rubel. I hate to disagree, but I can actually see why Technorati might go in this direction, as it meshes so well with their ‘find the authority, find the resonance’ focus.

Live Blogged The Arbitrage Session

Yesterday I live blogged the Super Affiliate Panel. Today I’m live blogging the 3:30pm Session, The Confluence of Search and Affiliate Marketing – Kristopher B. Jones, President and CEO, Pepperjam

Specific case studies and examples of working strategically with PPC affiliates and SEM Firms to cover more real estate and capture more market share through search-engines.

Jones says there is considerable money to be made outside of the traditional 3 affiliate networks
-Specifically look at Azoogle, Digital River, ClickBank, Linkconnector, ShareASale, XY7, etc.

Keyword tools:
Traditional: Yahoo Suggestion Tool, Google Suggestion Tool
Non-Typical: Rapid Keyword (highly recommended), Keyword Discovery, KeyCompete (most recommended

Stay away from direct linking to keep out of trouble with Google and to make sure your ad shows.

Made-For-Adsense Search Arbitrage=Garbitrage
Don’t waste your time or money

“Sophisticated Affiliate Marketing Search Arbitragers provide significant value to search users and merchants.”

Strategies for Success

– Approach the merchant with a strategy. Build your case. Make your case stronger (ask them to share their internal research data). Convince the merchant of your expertise.

– Develop an Aff Mktg strategy that works. Replicate it. Scale it. Ex. $50 per merchant per month. On CJ alone (2K+ merchants) you can generate $100,000 per month

Arbitrage Resources:
Shoemoney.com
Pepperjamblog.com
Webmaster Radio
Revenews.com
SearchEngineWatch.com
SEOloser.com

Best tip of the day:

How to get around Yahoo’s (and MSN’s) rejected keywords issue.
Because no real human will look at your list, go into it knowing that roughly 30% of your keywords will be rejected. Reupload your rejected list of keywords, and 30% of those will be rejected. Keep going until you are satisfied.

Another good tip:

Your landing page’s quality score can be very important, in determining your cost. Make sure it is valuable to the user. Seems like a common sense suggestion, but I know some people seem to not get this.

Increasing click-through in ads:

Obvious: Use keyword in the headline and in the body of the ad
Multiple ads: Don’t forget to use a combination of ads for your keywords. Don’t put all your hopes in one or two ads.

Random Observations From Affliate Summit West 2007

!. As I said before, many, many people said they got their money’s worth on Sunday after the ShareASale party. The networking there was great.

2. One fellow stopped my husband and said, “Aint that the finest bleep bleep girl you ever laid eyes on?”, talking about the girl in the red dress at one of the dating/chat booths. And, I have to interject, she was very, very pretty. All the booth babes were gorgeous. My husband, a semi-uptight pastor laughed and said, “Well I’m rather partial to my wife. She’s a hottie.” Kudos to him, of course.

The guy was taken aback and said, “You have gotta be bleep bleep kidding me!” And went on to explain that he went away to these things with NO thoughts of his wife and was hoping to hook up with someone.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, Vegas is the city that forgets your indiscretions, but I was surprised by the number of men (not at the Affiliate Summit, but in Vegas in general) that indicated they wanted to ‘get to know me better’ when my husband was not around. It was an eye-opener to say the least.

3. One speaker’s video was pulled
I missed this session, but a pal told me that one of the speakers on Wednesday called an attendee an idiot from the stage and they pulled his video. It won’t appear on the site. (WARNING: unsubstianted rumor)

4. I overheard an employee getting reprimanded pretty soundly.
The lady wasn’t smiling and the supervisor (an Aff Summit employee, not a Bally’s employee) told her that the people at this conference were important and she was to show them the respect that was due to them or she could leave the premises immediately. Then she finished by telling her to smile and help the next registrant.

5. Unlike every tech conference I’ve ever been to, people were hesitant to step in front of the camera. They indicated they either 1-weren’t successful enough to get quoted yet or 2-had nothing they wanted to share. This was interesting in that most people are camera hogs, so I was very surprised to find this out.

Links for 1/22/2007

First, let me point all of you to my Twitter/Skype login, Duzins. Please add me if you haven’t already.

If you are interested in Affiliate Summit 2007 West, check out Linda’s comprehensive Affiliate Summit coverage post on all that is happening there. I can understand her frustration in not getting to cover it first-hand this time. I missed CES two weeks ago because of this trip and I was miserable.

Matt has been kind enough to play tag with me, and since I’ve played a few times already, I’m going to answer with my most recent tagging answers and hope he’ll forgive me with not creating another list (though I will add this pic for fun).

Robyn with a tiny Elvis

Oh, and Bill has made my day by placing me in his 66 Successful Bloggers list. …very much appreciated!

Affiliate Summit Flickr Feed

My camera man (the hubby) has taken some great shots. The flickr link is here (add me as a contact), and you can subscribe to the set via RSS. I’m also sharing the ones we’ve taken up to now, below.

I am relatively annoyed that I couldn’t get into the party tonight… I had planned to film it as well. Oh well, I’m sure someone else will post pics of the party and the names of the winners of the awards show so I can satisfy my curiosity.

Affiliate Summit – Ask The Super Affiliates

Speakers:
Jon F, WickedFire.com
Jon F, OwnerWickedFire.com and Managing Partner, Coastal Synergy LLC
Andrew Johnson, Author, Web Publishing Blog
Jeremy Schoemaker (shoemoney), Andrew Johnson
Jeremy Schoemaker, President, ShoeMoney Media Group

Some highlights:

Commission Junction – Schoemaker and Jon F took time to talk specifically on the CJ.com non-pays. Many of us have been burned by Commission Junction, but I’ve not seen anything like what Jon F saw (170K chargeback, 30 days post payment). CJ really should tighten their belts.
Continue reading “Affiliate Summit – Ask The Super Affiliates”

Affiliate Summit Day 1

Day one was all about networking. Here’s a short video that shows you a bit of what we did yesterday. There was structured time to make freinds and network, but I think I made better contacts at the ShareASale sponsored party Sunday night. The pretty blonde that sings and the last man that sings are the organizers of the Affiliate Summit, Shawn Collins and Missy Ward.

This video was originally shared on blip.tv by duzins with a No license (All rights reserved) license.

Affiliate Summit – Arrived

We arrived in Vegas today, and are spending tonight getting to see some of sin city up close. Tomorrow will start the conference, and here’s what we’ll be covering then.

Exhibitors will be setting up their booths around 11am tomorrow. As well, conference attenders will begin to filter in and get their conference badges in the morning. But Sunday will really focus on networking. There are three separate events scheduled tomorrow that will hone your networking skills.

Affiliate Meet Market & Vendor Showcase
This is a time to meet affiliate vendors and take time assessing their product. When you have a question later, you’ll be able to connect with someone at the company that you’ve met. It’s always a good idea to make nice with the people who write your checks. If anyone knows how to sell their products well, it’s often them. Ask them for some winning strategies.

Ice Breakers Networking Session
This is a time more geared to meeting other people in the industry, in general. You’ll meet vendors, press, affiliates, search marketers and all sorts of other people who will be great additions to your rolodex. Don’t forget your business cards.

Affiliate Jam Session and Sing-a-Long
This long-running event is hosted by Share-A-Sale and always seems to get a good response. I wonder what I’ll be singing…?

Look for updates sometime tomorrow. Feel free to email me (robyn *at* sleepyblogger.com) if you have anyone specific I need to interview and I’ll make pains to do so.